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  Why would God stop man from building a tower that reached into the "heavens" and yet let modern man reach even further with a space station and moon landings?

  by StoneWall in

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  anyone?.

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  The Bible is mainly fiction.
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  Motorcycle riders: Who are you and what do you ride?

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  suzuki boulevard c50 for me.. .

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  BMW1200LT
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  how long in truth,,,what was the final "straw"

  by peaches in

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  i was in for 30 years.....my ex was an elder...."holy spirit appointed" he tortured me....i was married 33+ years....you know,,,marriage is sacred...you can leave,,,i know,,,,if abuse is intolerable....but that starts a series of events...etc etc etc....i finally left everything...and moved far away.....people actually believe "holy spirit" appoints people,,,my ex would not pray unless there was an audience...you know,,,,people invited over for supper kind of thing,,,you get the point..... my best friend had a mental breakdown,,,,she basically became psychotic.....had to be hospitalized....she took up smoking,,,got disfellowshipped...and lost all emotional support....to this day,,,,as far as i know,,,she is still disfellowshipped...needs to be hospitialized every so often....she is on complete disability.....and still trying to get back into the org....her mother does support some what,,,,even though she is a witness herself,,,,,takes her to assemblies,,,,memorial,,,etc,,,,this has gone on for years.....she cannot mentally handle the organization,,,nor can she mentally handle not being a witness...lost everything....guilt....etc..... did not mean to ramble on so much......i have mental scars that will not go away....because i stayed in a "mess" for god,,,,i could write page after page of things like the above....as being my "last straw".......curious about you here on the board....any specific "breaking point" or a collection of many things..... thanks for your in put...peaches.

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  Last straw was taking receipt of the "God's Love" book at the 2008 district convention and seeing its unloving manipulative controlling approach (rather than any "reform") is what got me to finally research my years long doubts starting with ordering and reading "Crisis of Conscience".
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  The new song book

  by bobld in

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  i know it's has been mentioned before but my 2$ worth.iam sure if they (j.w.

  ) had listen to the music and song without knowing who published the new song book.they would say "this song book is awful with no end of criticism.

  "also over 90% would agree and would not bat and eye.. knowing that the wbts published this (garbage) song book over 90% agree what a great song book.talk of brainwashed people.i can't stand the music, it sounds like some kindergarden kid is taking piano lessons.did they not rehearse.it is awful the the dough heads won't admit it.i say they will do a re-issue,revision 2 next year.. bob.

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  The title of the New Songbook should be: Sing Praises to the Governing Body. Two examples:
  
  Song 51/11: Making Jehovah’s Heart Glad
  
  Old Book (Song 51):
  2. May we from your side never move;
  A liar the Tempter we would prove.
  Your principles and laws so right
  We would make daily our delight.
  
  New Book (Song 11):
  2. Your slave, your steward here on earth,
  Proclaims your greatness and your worth,
  Feeds us with nourishment when due,
  Thus strengthens us your will to do.
  
  Song 174/43: Stay Awake, Stand Firm, Grow Mighty
  
  Old book (Song 174):
  2. "In his place each one be heeding, what Christ Jesus has to say"
  
  New Book (Song 43)
  2. "Stay alert to Christ's direction, Through his faithful slave today, heed the counsel of the older men"
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  well, they finally caught up to the april wt

  by booby in

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  but as anticipated not only is it not a problem but rather prompts expressions like this.

  "it just highlights to .

  mean just how awesome and loving jehovah is.

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  The two responses I got from elders so far were:

  1. We simply cannot understand in what ways the holy spirit works with the FDS/GB

  2. Our worship of Jehovah should not depend on Chronology
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  ANOTHER GILEAD STUDENT

  by not sure yet in

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  i've been reading this forum a for some time now.

  since i find myself on a crossroad i decided to start participating.

  i was at gilead in 1980 and remember standing in de elevator alone with ray franz, how just gave us a lecture.

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  Not sure whether he posts here, but we have another ex-gilead at www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com. His user name is "awakend @ gilead"
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  anybody ever read "crisis of conscience" and then confessed to elder ?

  by inbetween in

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  if so, what happened ?.

  does it constitue a reason for a jc ?.

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  Depends on where you live and how liberal the Elders are. I literally read from it during a visit from two elders and openly discussed the content with another. No problem whatsoever. However, in other locations it is an immediate JC.
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  Consolation September 1945: Refusing blood does not bear witness...

  by Designer Stubble in

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  "consolation" september 1945 contains the most contrary quote you can imagine: "when we lose our life because we refuse inoculations, that does not bear witness as a justification of jehovah's name.

  god never issued regulations which prohibit the use of drugs, inoculations or blood transfusions.

  it is an invention of people, who, like the pharisees, leave jehovah's mercy and love aside.

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  http://www.getuige-van-jehovah.nl/picture/vertroosting_blz29_08_1945.jpg
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  Consolation September 1945: Refusing blood does not bear witness...

  by Designer Stubble in

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  "consolation" september 1945 contains the most contrary quote you can imagine: "when we lose our life because we refuse inoculations, that does not bear witness as a justification of jehovah's name.

  god never issued regulations which prohibit the use of drugs, inoculations or blood transfusions.

  it is an invention of people, who, like the pharisees, leave jehovah's mercy and love aside.

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  "Consolation" September 1945 contains the most contrary quote you can imagine: " When we lose our life because we refuse inoculations, that does not bear witness as a justification of Jehovah's name. God never issued regulations which prohibit the use of drugs, inoculations or blood transfusions. It is an invention of people, who, like the Pharisees, leave Jehovah's mercy and love aside ."
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  Lets Welcome Designer Stubble to the board!

  by asilentone in

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  Designer Stubble said:

  I left (and wife followed) in time for my young children to live a normal life and they are enjoying their many "pagan" holidays and don't have to waste time sitting still at the KH .

  Hooray!!!! Hello and welcome!

  Well, she still needs to formally decide (see my other posting) but is on sabatical leave we shall say.